How a Johnny Cash Producer Changed My Career and Changed My Life

When I was in undergrad, I took an elective called “Advanced Recording Studio Techniques”. Yep, there was a course at an accredited university that went in-depth on how to best engineer sound in the recording studio. Even more surprising, at one time there was a place specifically designed for musicians to record an album. All kidding aside, it was pretty awesome. We covered advanced microphone techniques, mastering, and how to use just about everything inside of a recording studio. As you might imagine, the self-selecting group of students that go to school for music and find themselves in the Advanced Recording Studio Techniques class aren’t just kind of nerdy, they’re really nerdy (myself included). They love stories about production techniques like how Jimmy Page left in an earlier vocal take on the ending of “Whole Lotta Love”. Herein lies the problem. When you get to this level of geekiness, you limit your audience to only a handful of others that can relate to you. Enter Ronnie Dean.

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The Yoda of Record Producers

Ronnie Dean was an old Nashville producer. He had worked as an engineer at Columbia records and production on “The Johnny Cash Show”. He had an amazing ear and intuition for crafting perfection. This wasn’t just apparent in the music he produced, but also in the way he read the room and related to his students. He knew how nerdy we were and he also knew how much we respected him. Every class he would reiterate the best career advice I have ever received:

“If you are only interested in one thing, you won’t be any fun at parties.”

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It’s All Geek to Me

He explained that early on in his career, he would go to parties and talk about work. He’d talk about the 32 takes that it took in the studio for a guitar solo, or how to mic a drum kit, or even what it was like to run sound for Johnny Cash. He quickly realized that no one really cared. He had become so focused on his own microcosm of the world that he forgot to observe everything else around him. He forgot how to relate to people. Luckily, he was able to learn from his experience and make sure that his students never made the same mistakes that he had made. He pushed his students to think beyond his classroom and not take it so seriously. He wanted us to do things like explore the arts, climb a mountain, go for a walk, read a book, and talk to kids in other majors.

Being the socially awkward musician that I was (and still kind of am), I was terrified at the thought of getting out of my comfort zone. I was an expert in the field, a big fish. I knew just about any recording trick in the book. I knew when to use a ribbon mic over a condenser mic, I knew…wait a minute, there I go again… Anyway, as a punk 19-year-old, I was lucky enough to receive this advice and it completely shaped the way that I think. It changed the way I interact with people, the way I learn, the things I read, and it certainly changed my career trajectory.

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How I’ve Applied it to My Career

His sage advice has helped me carve an unconventional path. I started out in the music industry, joined an ad agency, started my own ad agency, worked in consumer goods and private label brands, and for nearly a decade have worked in the highly-regulated world of aviation. In a world full of specialists, I’m a generalist…a Swiss Army Knife. In my career, I know enough about a lot of subjects to be dangerous. I can talk to a customer intelligently at a trade show, but also know when that customer needs to talk to a specialist. I can craft messaging strategies about highly technical topics, but I always need a little help from my technical friends to make sure I get it right. It turns out that many of the skills and interests I developed along the way have transferred, regardless of the industry.

The only reason that I know what I do about marketing is that I’ve put in the time and effort based on a genuine interest in the subject. Before my formal MBA training, my branding education came from reading and following the greats like Seth Godin and Marty Neumeier. My graphic design background and social media promotion experience came out of necessity, as early in my career the companies I worked for had very limited budgets. My experience writing and crafting messages has come from decades of reading and ghostwriting for others. To be good at any one of these skills takes time. It takes energy. It takes hundreds, if not thousands of hours of practice. More importantly, it takes genuine interest and curiosity. Although I’m probably not the best at any one of these particular specialties, I still live by the same principle; I’d rather be fun at parties.

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How I’ve Applied it to My Life

Although Ronnie Dean’s advice has been important for my career, it’s been even more important for my personal life. He was right. I gave up the specialist mentality nearly 20 years ago. Although I still play music, it’s only a part of my life. I’ve developed an appreciation for many different interests, like hockey, running (5 marathons, 3 ultras), cooking, art museums, reading, listening to songs with my daughter, and the list changes daily. By having the curiosity to continually learn and take on different interests, I’ve been able to better connect with others and have fun along the way.

What do you think? What are you into? What timeless advice have you received that has changed your life?

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Top Five Easy Reads for Career Inspiration

Okay, so the quar has likely squashed many of the plans you had this summer. Are you going to see the latest blockbuster? Not likely. Headed to a baseball game? Nope. I’m guessing at some point during your summer you are going to be bouncing off the walls, bored out of your skull and obsessively checking your phone. Well, between all of that screen time, you can give yourself some career inspiration with some books that have inspired me. Most of which can be read in one sitting and they’re really enjoyable. So what do you have to lose?

5. Getting to Yes

By Roger Fisher, William Ury, and Bruce Patton

I took an MBA class called “Negotiation and Conflict Management” and my professor, Dr. Roger Mayer, recommended this book as a supplement to our text. It is great and you don’t have to be in sales to appreciate and apply the concepts in your everyday life. Everyone has people that they negotiate with on a daily basis. You negotiate with your spouse on dinner plans. You negotiate with your kids on when to go to bed. You negotiate with a vendor on pricing. This isn’t necessarily about how to negotiate the best deal on a car (but it will help you spot the tactics — immediately), but more so how to work together with others in your life to come to a mutual benefit.

4. The Alchemist

By Paulo Coelho

The Alchemist is not your typical career or business book. I’m not really sure you could call it a business book at all. Some people may think this book is a little “woo-woo”, but there are some really great principles to ponder throughout the twists and turns of the hero’s journey. Part self-help, part fairy tale, all fable, The Alchemist has something for everyone. It also helps that the book is so quotable, like “It’s the possibility of having a dream come true that makes life interesting”, and “You drown not by falling into a river, but by staying submerged in it”. These quotes and more make it highly memorable and useful for all types of readers.

3. The End of Marketing as We Know It

By Sergio Zyman

Sergio Zyman is best known as the architect of the “New Coke”. Sure, we all either experienced this, *ahem* “experiment”, or have read about it in academic texts about branding flops, but somehow Zyman tells a compelling story about how this launch actually made Coca-Cola more successful. Although some readers may feel it’s a bit of a stretch, from a consumer behavior standpoint, it actually makes logical sense. This book is a bit dated, it’s an excellent read to cover the fundamentals of marketing that many modern marketers miss, like why marketing is pointless unless it results in sales, why making a strategy is more important than the advertising, and why marketing is more of a science than an art.

2. Made to Stick

By Chip and Dan Heath

This is a great book for anyone who has ever struggled to make their ideas stick. It changed the way I write, however it’s not a writing book. It changed me as a marketer, but it’s not really a marketing book. It’s an idea book. No matter your profession, the principles of how to succeed with your ideas follow the same fundamentals. Their concept that reducing the amount of information to make an idea stickier is a something that I use to this day.

1. Zag

By Marty Neumeier

It’s been nearly 15 years since I first read this book and it literally changed my life. At the time, I was in the music industry and I really wanted to work for a marketing agency. I applied these concepts and successfully pivoted careers. The way that the author simply and brilliantly examines how to outpace the competition and stretch your thinking are concepts that I still try to adhere to today. Sure, it’s technically a marketing book, but it’s really more a decision book. It challenges the decisions that you make. Do you fall into the trap of doing things a certain way at your job because they have always been done that way? If so, this book could give you the boost you need to make better decisions, think more creatively, and break the monotony of your day-to-day routine.

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